Why Does Gen Z Hate Femininity?

i think modern feminism has strayed from its OG core believes and goals. It would be 1 thing if a bunch of guys said this but its another when a bunch of women ALSO say this. In my opinion, yes.
From personal experience, to and seeing hearing other stories, and the countless videos on every social media platform, it feels like most women don't want to be the same as men or equal, but they want more. And that to me is a system doomed to fail itself.
But thats my take.

Stop saying "guyses". You do such great work and this makes you sound like an ignoramus.

I believe that society is finally swinging back to a point (in general, not either side of the extremes blasted on social media,) where people understand the healthy difference between masculinity and femininity. My issue with this whole thing, and almost every single take from these interviews in the video, is it feels like although women know what their feminine desires/instincts lead them toward, they don't seem cognizant of or willing to put in the effort that accompanies a woman's work. That is to say; I dislike hearing from so many women my own age saying they want to be a stay at home wife/mother so they can "put their feet up and relax" or do whatever while their husband works.... That's not what being a woman is about.
Being a mature adult, whether you're a man or woman, should lead you to work and sacrifice and love. If you have a husband, take excellent care of him to the best of your abilities, make sure he's happy and thriving. If you have kids, work hard at spending time with them, educating them, making sure they become well rounded adults. If you have a home, spend time taking care of it, cleaning, gardening, organizing--whatever. I just hate the misconception that being a home maker, wife, and mother, is all about doing your own thing and it isn't work. Give back to your husband, your family, neighbors, and community. Don't strive to be idle.

@@MyDogisEvil I would agree with u but women haven’t had more than 70 years of rights to prove that women want more than men. Getting rights and actually receiving them in society are two different things, in a society that for the longest of time has promoted traditional roles for both men and women. Today both women and men bash each other for stepping out of their “traditional gender roles “ while praising those that don’t. Women for the first time are participating in society apart from staying at home, they can do what men don’t want and men do what they don’t want to do either. It’s about accepting that women can do just as much as men can and that men can help them achieve their goals by making the world as safe as possible for women just like it is for men.

It's kind of sad. Men don't have a say if he wants a family. Women hold all the power, her choice. I'm positive that some great men whom probably will never have a family.

iya sih, i totally agree

So much this right here, thanks for sharing.

Been that way for some time now, and feminism is a bad deal for women too. Female empowerment doesn't have to be stripping your femininity, you don't need to be masculine in order to be strong, and men don't need femininity in order to not be toxic.

Yall arent women lmao.

1st and 2nd wave feminism was much needed for women after that it’s not even about rights jobs or anything of the sort

Don't tell the twitter addicts

i get along with them, i just dont like most of them very much.

@@Sr68720same thing

Literally similar approach

@@Sr68720you are misogynist

Avatar TLA shows this so well, Sokka is masculine for sure but isn't macho, he tries to be but just isn't. He's more logistical and it shows in his personality, he's also a natural born leader and becomes one eventually, something that's traditionally and often associated with being a man, masculinity.

The one sane comment

femininity and masculinity is a part of gender, biology. Thats not something you can change.

@@CarrotMuncher Sokka is a fictional character just as Avatar is a fictional world written by a multi millionaire who hasn't experienced anything close to real life of the 99% for decades.
Effectively he's a fantasy.

Literally my type of women , i love tomboyish women

i know right

Nietzsche said it 170 years ago...what the left wants is reprisals not equality

It is a way to feel better about performance of horrific actions and avoid accountability. Humans all have a natural tendency to do this.

Yes, that's what the Chinese government says too. Since you guys had the industrial revolution/polluted the earth/colonised people - its OK for us to do it too. But most of these people will agree that the Chinese government is evil but the inverse obviously isn't true. Hypocrites.

Exactly.
It shows pretty much why religions don't work in practice.
Like Jesus said all sorts of stuff that a great many Christians do not identify with.
Likewise feminist proponents say it is about equal rights, but what they really mean is equal or superior rights where women don't have it, and the protection of superior rights where women already have it.

Same goes for the men expecting women to stay traditional while men have the ability to make a cake and eat it too.

where in life can anyone actually have the cake and eat it too. He gave a statement that at least included the hypocrisy, what hypocrisy are you referring to?@@kindallnight1615

​@@kindallnight1615We don't expect a feminist to be traditional, we don't even expect them to be people.😂😂😂

@@kindallnight1615 If whataboutism could be considered thinking; you could be considered sapient.

@@cavaleirosemlicenca3894 there will always be a simp or a feminist to twist it around and make the men the ones being delusional.. it is funny you dont see channels with short, bald, broke dudes demanding a super model.. however, you see mid women desiring top 10% and feeling entitled to them just because vagina

It’s almost like “the patriarchy” is a false buzzword and women actually have more power than they want to believe

That's the problem with the women he just interviewed, and I for sure don't want a women who doesn't want to do her part of a nuclear relationship and make my ass do the rest in the name of empowerment and girl power and all this other nonsense. If a thoticus doesn't want to be traditional, truly traditional, then I'ma ditch it because it's a hazard waiting to happen.

I'm sick and tired of these womens double standards in general, why they acting like they want to be boss thots when they know later down it won't work out for them? Oh that's right, because feminazis told them so.

@@ancapgrandscribe9546 How do young women find and approach traditional men in this day and age? It's so frustrating when you want that sort of dynamic, but most men seem too timid to approach these days. :/

@@elyssacorbaley8133 Here’s the deal, try being friendly is one thing, and if they’s too scared then hey, I wouldn’t try to go after a dude who’s scared of women even approaching their ass.

As a man keep preaching

As a man keep it up.

A woman is a non-man 🤣 took roughly five years for men to take over feminism. It's wonderful.

Men are the villains. Who has started almost all wars? Who causes more violence, who rapes more? Who killed more? Who has controlled and restricted what the other gender can do through history? Think about a big issue right now and tall me it's not a man or two behind it.

​@@maikeruxo9569as a man i don't claim you as our own

I agree. Everything depends on the individual's mindset. But there is always influence by others and society no matter what. It depends on whether you choose to apply what they say or not. And some genetic / hormonal reactions. This applies to both men and women. Just as you are not sure of what makes up femininity, many believe is caring, nurturing, and supporting; men don't know what makes them masculine other than being stoic, protecting, and supporting financially. Perspective of others will always have different opinions and different levels.
For me as a male, many people seem to be scared of me. A woman a few months ago at my office told me that she was scared of me. But after speaking with her, she changed her mind. That's because I'm stoic. I'm not reaching out to everyone due to being shy around others. I'm perfectly comfortable sitting in my own cubicle getting work done alone. But many want me to go around talking to them, but they don't necessarily do the same. Both men and women are the same when talking to them. They want to know what I did over the weekend. I'll share at least one thing. If I ask them, they kind of avoid saying anything.
I wouldn't think of you as less feminine working in manufacturing. Women tend to be associated with brightening up the room. Meaning they will socialize with a lot of people, making people feel more comfortable and open to share.
A woman may be more masculine if they have certain physical traits like a square jaw that is more prominent. Maybe its how they walk. An article I saw online says that women tend to be more graceful and having flowing movements, whereas men may seemed more dragged and less graceful. Feminine women tend to have a lighter voice. Versus talking loudly or dominating verbally over others. As for traits, aggression and dominance is seen as less feminine. Sports, camping, hunting, cars, body building, etc is looked as more masculine interests. More masculine traits may be more ambitious, competitive, and more rational than listening to emotions. But you can still be feminine with all of those if you tend to be less stoic.

Most people woman have a little bit of "masculinity" in them, doesn't make them a man, it makes them unique

That's not masculinity at all, it's just work ethic.
Seriously a few centuries ago everyone who wasn't rich from the young to the old, man or woman broke their backs working farmland just to keep from starving.
People get too hung up on cultural ideas as being intrinsic.
The great irony is that in nature typically it's the males who make a big visual fuss.
Just look at peacocks vs peahens 😅, to say nothing of the various birds of paradise.
Only a handful of centuries ago it was completely normal and accepted for men (at least the upper class who could afford it) to wear lace in their clothes and use cosmetics.
Getting hung up on these things that change with the times is a fools errand.

You are what I possibly call tomboyish women (which I like it)

That's just a normal person. Increasingly fewer with each passing day. Idk if u ever played dead space, but I think most ppl nowadays are necromorphs under the influence of the marker.
Not sure what serves as the marker for our impending hellscape

So you still only like your boyfriend for the value he provides to you.

@@peopleofearth6250 I like him as a person and the love he gives me, that's value for me.

@@peopleofearth6250 thats what makes a man.

@@NamaRauqos04595 That's sexist.

You are a rare and precious presence in today's world. I am grateful for your existence, and I appreciate your simplicity and kindness. It is remarkable to encounter someone who embodies such simplicity and kindness, traits that are unfortunately rare in our time.

Same here (as a woman)

Who hates you?

@@anjieobasa1871 at this point, probably most red-pillers hate women

@@burningmagyk4986 Yet they like to play victim and act as if the world hates them smh.

@@anjieobasa1871 I mean, the world does hate them.... I am a very conservative man and despise them to the same degrees as I despise feminists. I call them meninists because they are saying all the same things feminists say.

wep that's how you make money without being a target.

He quite literally is cutting sentences together. Do ya'll just have blinders on?!

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Not even one anymore given that it now prioritises those who identify as women despite feminism by definition being about sex and not gender.

@@cicolas_nage he does.......

They want the authority of a man , the priviledge of a woman and the responsibilty of a child.

every woman agree equality until you ask them who should pay on the first date

@@iamhardwell2844 And how much you should pay

The real number should be closer than a 20% gap. It takes 2 to cheat

@@joshg6491 Agree with you. If anything the % of women is likely higher. Because women tend to go for the same small percentage of men who sleep with multiple women. If you look at the stats on dating sites in terms of the percentage of women going for the same men, its extremely significant. So the same one guy might be cheating with 10 different women.

when in the world does it take 2 to cheat? The whole issue is that it is not involving both partners, it makes no sense to assume both must be cheating.@@joshg6491

I come from a country where women 100% cheat more than men for sure, simply for the fact most men here are sexless and single and i always assumed this was the case for most of the world, that most guys struggle to even get one woman let alone multiple for them to be able to cheat in the first place

I seriously dont get what y'all want. People always say to use stats instead of feelings, then when it doesnt fut your narrative, suddenly you act like you know every woman in the world and every man, and deny all statistical outcomes? You're going off of emotions right now, your own feelings, which is fine but definitely not inherently factual or "the truth".

Happy for you my bro

What are you bringing to the table? Because she is table.

@@user-lt7ff1tg9fpretty sure the assumption is that she’s a human and not an object

Why would you get a double master, pay all that money for the education then not use it. In my opinion, the person who can best provide, should be the provider.

That doesn't make her feminine. Staying at home does not equal femininity. Women only did that in the past because we weren't allowed to do anything else.

The cow women definitely triggered me. There answers were all over the place. I feel the host missed opportunities to push back on their answers.

​@@UltraSaltyDomer1776the best interviews don't push back all that much. It frequently gets people to shut down or rephrase their true answers in a way that will appeal to the interviewer. It's better to seem passive, but engaged & just ask questions.

@@UltraSaltyDomer1776 The cow women don't realize they are walking red flags and no man with a sane mind would touch them with a 100 foot pole.

@@UltraSaltyDomer1776If you’re expecting pushback against the interviewees, then you’re on the wrong channel.

*Modern* feminism isn't needed in any country.

I like this take !

Do you have an example os said countries?

​@user-fd7ju5sb6b they usually end in "stan" is the countries he's talking about i assume

I don't understand how they can't that.

Original feminism then

Women are best at nurturing the next generation. Not sure why saying this is frowned upon, but I don't think there's anything greater in life and creating life.

@@eddie4249 I would agree to an extent but I think we are past generalizations. Biology is a driving force but we have evolved beyond that being the only deciding factor. I do not think there is anything wrong for women to choose a different role for themselves besides defaulting to motherhood. I say this as a mother to a 9 month old and being an engineer.

@@brooke9847 I don't think he could ever get past our own biology. Modern times/tech has definitely affected our mental health as a society. I don't think we could ever outgrow our roles which are directly related to our biology...Generally, woman are and will always be better nurturers than men. As far as a profession, I couldn't care less, but its sad that modern women will choose a career over a family. Definitely tough to balance, so props to you!

@@eddie4249there are plenty of mothers out there who are not nurturing at all, and should have never had kids in the first place. How nurturing you are depends on the individual not the sex! If women want to have a career let them, if they don’t the same. Women nowadays have a choice, let’s not use this silly one show fits all women nonsense.

The entire economy would collapse

Time would collapse

society will literally be on fire.

They've already boycotted work that's why migrants and children of migrants are replacing them.

yall won’t cause they actually pay yall livable wages😂 if men made less than most women in the US im sure yall would have your panties in a twist about it. You can’t speak on this when you’re literally already on the winning side babe

Exactly both need each other I order for society to function healthily. Also one thing to think is that while men do occupy the majority of the work force they can be replaced by automation in a couple of decades while women are more involved in the education and health sectors as well as the rising tech sector.

@@kindallnight1615 Well that explains why education has never been worse and the "health" industry is a sickness farm. What you say about tech just isn't true outside of freebie quota filling positions. Enjoy living in delulu though.

Bingo! Nice Lexus by the way

They're confused. Things will course correct... I have faith in that. Humanity existing depends on it.

In today's world I really don't expect much of another person. I pay my own bills and I clean my own place. I just a woman who does the same. Just split everything 50/50. Too many people are concerned with what the other person brings to the table, like fuck, this isn't a job interview. If you are taking care of yourself now by yourself and so is the other person, than just work as a team on everything.

@@user-dv8bs7tb5c Humanity is going to have die a little bit before these harpies ever decide to wake up.

@@inscription8099 Good luck trying to find a woman attracted to you enough to even consider splitting anything. When men make money it's usually for the sake of the family. When women make money, she only makes it for herself.

@@ray_n_carnation yeah those standards were OK back before women entered the job market, but we haven't adjusted relationship standards to accommodate and now everyone is just using people

women protecting each other from not just judgement but consequences and accountability is exactly what feminism stands for in the first world in 2023. it's a female solidarity movement that has nothing to do with equality. men are always accountable for their actions and decisions, women aren't because whatever they did they were manipulated. the patriarchy made them do it.

No, not at all. I will agree that a majority of young women in this day and age probably think and feel that way. But don't say *all* women when that isn't true. I'm a young woman, and I *literally* beg any man I'm with to hold me accountable to my word, to help me grow, as I want to help him. Accountability, honesty, and kindness are vital in relationships, but also just to be a good human being.

@@elyssacorbaley8133 You are a woman I would like :)

​@@elyssacorbaley8133 Good on you

​@@elyssacorbaley8133stop being a bot pls

Yes

Based

@@cicolas_nage No, social outlooks are incredibly important, "let people do what they want all the time and never consider the broader outcomes" is a horrible position to take that absolutely creates suffering down the line because people choose selfishly. We don't exist in a vacuum, all of your choices impact the world in some way, you can't tell everyone to just not consider that in their behavior.

Social norms exist for a reason. Most people most of the time should abide by them. That's how we have a healthy pro social society with healthy individuals. The opposite of what we see today.

@@01BLSP4Y You took the statement too literally 😂
It's about letting ppl live their lives on their own terms when it DOESN'T effect anyone else, not even themselves in a negative way.

That's an idiotic sentence. Women aren't fish to be caught and killed.

@@melmardiamond I was referring to the expression used in the video. And it was 100% not literal, but I know not all have to common sense to understand that.

Low IQ individual doesn't understand analogies

@@SuperPCentral wasted your time answering this person.. usually that sentence applies to most women giving advice because it entails women sayind the famous "be yourself" and "be nice".. telling men 20000 things to do to simp for women whereas when they give advice to women, it is basically "you are a queen and you deserve the world just because vagina"

Yea but she still doesnt know what men want, which is health, youthfulness and femininity. Most men do not care if she is a "boss-babe". How is that even remotely a positive attribute?

And vice versa

​@@daniella8400 viceversa alredy happens, that's the point .

dealing with the consequences of your own choice died in 2010 i think...

​@@ThoughtsMantleHollywood/Entertainment industry says otherwise.....

Yes

yes, why i cant show my strength to someone?

I picked up on that too 😂

😂😂

"aS aN eMpAtH"

Speaking as a 40 year old married woman with kids.... I think you've drank the Kool aid of the last decade. Sex and gender are the same as they've been for all of time across cultures and time... Even across animals there is an acknowledgement of obvious differences. It's so much less of a mind -,f**k to relax and understand that differences between men and women is real and is alright. Lean into it. I'm not some right wing crazy person. I'm a regular left leaning person who has found my line in the sand with this bizarre gender re -write.
NO. We are not assigning anything, it's already been assigned. People will all be differences between people, but there absolutely is a binary. Human existence depends on it.
Valuing our humanity isn't being stolen from by also valuing and respecting our roles

A like this take

The Roman empire lasted thousands of years and was very into labeling people. We have had 3rd wave feminism for like 50 years and are at the brink of collapse.
Just maybe we could find a middle ground, one where we realize sex does determine masculine/feminine because hormones and value both of these instead of fighting it.

I think what it is, is that people already honor and respect and clap for women who do want kids, but not as many people will do the same for women who don't want kids, because it's not the societal norm.

⁠@@princessleiraaaI agree with what you said about how people views women wanting children but the way society treats mothers is crappy. It’s contradictory. Praises women for wanting children but devalues us when we have them.

​@@princessleiraaathey won't applaud it because it isn't valuable to society in any way, shape, or form. Children are an investment in the future.

Okay, but if a woman doesn't want children and/or isn't responsible enough to be a mother, then she shouldn't have kids. Period. @@bbbbbbb51

One of my favorite things about this guy is that he asks open questions and let's us interpret how they answered. Regardless if he pushes back or not it displays people's opinions without hurting anyone (as dumb as some points may be).

What do you mean? Men and women are exactly the same in every way....

They aren't exactly the same. Women are naturally better at certain things and men are naturally better at certain things.

@@tonyg490Every way, in bone density, strength levels, estrogen levels, testosterone levels, reproductive system, psychology?

@@Allin1Xavi i was kidding....

Well men thinks those feminine traits makes us weak and dumb. So I'll stick to embracing my own personality rhat doesn't cater to men

When I ask to split the bills, guys assume I'm not interested in them. I talked about it with a male friend last week, and he said that for him it's like the girl doesn't want to "owe him anything" because she doesn't intend to take it further.
These traditional views are still held by men as well, so women letting the men pay is not always out of greed.
Similarly, relationships where the woman makes significantly more than the man are doomed to failed. Even if the man doesn't mind, society will mock him and demasculinize him until he starts resenting his woman.
Same for men who date older women, people always assume they have issues.

100% this. Feminism at its core addresses many issues that women face in society, and I can definitely get behind that.
What I *DON'T* like is how common cherrypicking is in feminism. They hate the patriarchy but also side with the patriarchy when it's in a woman's favor, while still expecting men to abide by the male gender roles of the very patriarchy that they claim is problematic.
As a male who, despite being heterosexual, doesn't really tick off all the boxes of what masculinity is, I see this shit all the time from "feminists".

and also wanting men to pay for dates.. feminism and "equality goes out of the window and comes the "provider" and blablabla to justify the hypocrisy

I don't think it's just about the money. Fact is, women struggle more with their self-perception than men and are, on average, less confident. I think there are plenty of women who are willing to pay for dates/go out with a man that makes less than them, but they don't have to confidence to play the role of an iniator. Maybe they're even intimidated by their partner and don't want to impose themselves on them/hurt their egos.
Imo it's more complex than that, the male-female dynamic has changed so much in the last 20 years than neither men nor women know what to do.

@@okplay9446 It is always about money and no it's not ''women being intimidated'' it's women knowing they can get free shit. A woman at my workplace that is around 26 but still single said that once she gets married she expected her husband to pay 70% while she pays 30%. That's not really equality , and yet she earns as much as the men she works with.

Give an inch, they take a mile. Human nature.

Early feminism a was about as nasty and resentful as it is today. The earliest feminist pushed for destruction of marriage, state funded abortion, children belonging to the state instead of the parents, socialism ect.
It's all been hidden under the veil of "women's rights" and suffrage, where the true intent from the very beginning was to pervert natural sex roles; and we're bearing it's rotten fruit today.
"A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, you'll know them by their fruit"

Too many people making too money for them to say the goal has been reached. They have to keep moving the goal posts.

I’m 33. I’m sorry but I was born equal here in the USA 🤷🏿‍♀️ As a woman and as a black person. This movement is a LIE

Actually, Feminism has always been about getting women to suppress men. That’s why the Suffragettes were considered terrorists when they were bombing bars and police stations. The political class funded the Feminists just like they are doing with the LGBT groups right now. Look it up.

I don’t want either of those things, they both sound awful

so i have to pick between the lesser of two evils…

At least I get payed.

@@CatharticCreation You don't have to do either of them. There are many different options.
- You may want to become a parent without giving birth. Adoption and fostering, taking care of nieces and nephews, becoming a godparent, becoming a nanny, are all ways to become a parental figure in a child's life without giving birth.
There are ways to earn a living that don't involve corporate wage slavery. By corporate wage slavery I assume the OP means a retail or office 9-5.
- Becoming an artisan (selling craft beer, trinkets, knitted and crocheted goods, carved goods, jewelry, etc etc) and selling your wares at markets
- Becoming a farmer, animal breeder, horticulturalist, working with the land, working with plants and animals. Working as a conservationist or park ranger.
- Going into a skilled profession such as engineer, lawyer, doctor, veterinarian
- Going into academia as a scholar, a professor, a researcher
- Going into a creative field, art, theatre, music. These tend not to pay well but they can be far more rewarding if it is where your passion lies
- You could go into a caring profession; nursing, teaching, elder care, these are all undervalued but NEEDED roles that I have infinite gratitude for.
- You could be a first responder, (police, fire, ambulance, civil defense). You have to be physically strong and capable and calm in a crisis.
- Picking up a trade and becoming a tradee (builder, plumber, electrician, heavy machinery operator, trucker). These blue-collar professions are surprisingly well-paying, especially if you set up your own company.
- Starting your own business and being an entrepreneur. This assumes you have some capital that you are willing to risk. Very long hours and very risky but potentially huge payoff.
None of these jobs, nor the corporate ones, require any form of condescension to men.

@@bananewane1402
Most women want to be mothers.

Best comment here

Exactly man

If you’re a man. If you’re a woman, marriage is an investment in future divorce earnings.

My mom is amazing. She works, does the housework (sometimes tells me and my brother what to do) and cooks delicious food. She doesn't need anything else to be a strong woman, in my eyes she's a much better role model than a lot of other women. So yeah, I can relate

So cleaning a house automatically = feminine?

My mom decided she wanted to be a professor because she bought the feminist dream.
So she started going back to school, and while she was focusing on her career 3 out of her 4 childrens' lives fell apart. My oldest brother became an alcoholic and quickly racked up 3 DUI's, my sister became an opioid addict single mother with two kids from different fathers, she still lives at home as a 40 year old and is entirely dependent.
My mom earned TWO masters degrees while her favorite teenage son was deliberately flunking out of highschool to sleep in my car as I rapidly became a deadbeat alcoholic. After 10 years of struggling I managed to beat that addiction alone, but now I feel crippled and hopeless. That's the reality of feminism.
So now she's a 65 year old woman now with a middling career in education, half her children's lives are in utter ruins, and the other half are deeply resentful towards her abandonment of us when we needed a mother.

sure but you still have men helping she isnt the only one there to guide. if you disagree think about all the men that are around you and those are the ones that help your mother.

Single mothers are something else, my mom worked 3 jobs (1 full time, 1 part time and night shift) and still took care of the household for years until we were old enough to pick up after ourselves.
Single moms are the closest thing to superheroes. I have so much admiration for them especially because at no point do you ever hear them complain or be entitled, they are just pure hard-working, brave, strong, kind people.
They deserve so much more respect than these fake delusional femcels on Twitter spamming "slaayyyy gurlboss" when they belittle guys for no reason.
If the attention shifted to showing the image of single mothers in a more mainstream way I guarantee it would eradicate most of the toxic red-pilled men community, because these people don't go outside.

this is why human values are what we should prioritize rather than economic status. our society is anti human fundamentally, yet we use its metricks to evaluate each other. sick world

Amazing, how did you get a spiritual counsellor, and how do i reach her?

Thank you for this valuable information, i just looked her up now online. impressive.

It took me over a year to not think every day about an ex-girlfriend I really really loved. It takes some time, my friend. You WILL get better and you WILL find love again.

@@Eltonscruggs Please dont fall for these selfproclaimed spiritual healers. They just want your best - your money while providing NO usefull results.

Therapy

corn ball

I'm a feminine woman, and I want my man to be vulnerable with me, when he needs to be. And yes, I have dated a man that cried in front of me, more than once, and it was totally fine and there was no loss in attraction. What WILL make a feminine woman lose attraction is if a man seems unstable or frightening in some way. There's a huge difference between crying and venting when you need to, when you need solace and the love of your partner, and being a volatile, emotional soul in need of healing from within.

Facts ❤ - sincerely a woman

@@elyssacorbaley8133 Yes, well, where are your crying boyfriends now? Gonezo, in el garbage lmao.
Sort of proving OP's point here; what you say you want and what you actually want are two very different things. Also, the "feminine woman" who declares herself as such is about as reliable testimony as the neckbeard who never misses an opportunity to tell you what a nice guy he is.

​@@ryder8646no women is going to dump You for crying time from time in really especific situations to me a least is just a matter of how often it happens and why

I remember reading some of the chief concerns of the 2nd wave anti-feminists were that women would be forced into the rat race and away from motherhood if the feminists got what they wanted. Lo and behold that is exactly what has happened today.

Men and woman are very different but they complement one another

The point of feminism is freedom of opportunity. A women should have the right and freedom to apply to be a firefighter doesn’t mean she should especially since a lot of women do not have the physical requirements to be a firefighter. I honestly don’t know why some many people miss this.

This all women should be feminine and all men should be masculine trope is ridiculous. Just let people live and be how they want to without pressuring either sex to be a certain way. Everyone will have different ideas about what is masculine or feminine too, and everyone will be on a spectrum between the two. Being feminine doesn’t make you a better woman, but suggesting that women who aren’t does make you a worse person.

A lot of girls reject femininity because they have been told by men that being feminine makes you weak, over emotional, overly sensitive, irrational etc.

@@wft15 We tried that, now man are in women's sports and a good percentage of women think they are men. We don't have to be as strict as our ancestors, but this gender is a spectrum thing will end our civilization if it continues.
You can call me a worse person if it makes you feel better, but I won't stop saying what is true just because you pressure me to be a curtain way.

Amen❤

I think the problem with marriages nowadays is people are ready to walk off at the slightest inconvenience because society has conditioned us to "not settle", I think this is an overreaction and the pendulum swinging the other way because a few decades ago lot of people weren't leaving abusive marriages so it's kind of society overcorrecting that. Today you've got people divorcing over the slightest inconveniences

true, but this problem runs to the core of what we actually are. look at the "women are wonderful bias," and hypergamy. what you will find is that people are not really even wired to think rationally. i have learned to lower my expectations. society is sick, people are mediocre, and it wont change or get better. i only focus on my self and being as strong as i can be

you mean that to woman, cause men arent hating woman just pointing out the flaws in a movement.

Shaming has its own problems. It works in the short term, but it only makes people hide their thoughts and feelings. After a certain point, something's got to give. If shaming worked in the first place, things wouldn't have changed.

Shame for what?

Previous generations definitely had problems! I don’t why everyone’s pretending the past was some paradise to live in when it was arguably far worse.

Every generation has issues. It aint nothing new.

Exactly! Married 13 years and you are so right. You can't chase that initial attraction, you miss out on a much deeper connection and relationship.

I don't quite understand it, if there is no spark that means there is no attraction. I have dated people I was not attracted to several times and it was the worst thing I have ever did, now I finally have someone which started with a spark and I still love him more than anything

@@somethingstuffles9084 I think we define the spark differently. I don't define it as attraction because there's plenty of people that I find attractive and get along with that I don't have a spark with and would be able to date

@@rebeccamadsen4509 how do you define it? For me the spark or even attraction in general is super rare ^^; And if I don't have it I am just not interested or forcing myself which just ends up in me breaking up after a while

@@somethingstuffles9084 I think I define attraction like someone you are attractedbto physically and maybe some part pf that initial attraction will also include compatability to some degree (being funny, kind, charismatic etc). I think I've recently started to define the spark as "finding the one". There was a few weeks/months where my relationship felt a bit lackluster or like I wasn't sure. But I felt like the spark grew and grew and now I definitely feel like I've found the one!

And that's totally fine if both of you enjoy life like this :)

Aren't you exhausted by all that work??

@@Ababa3256 I got use to it & learned how to manage. I also unwind by having a drink after work everyday.

@@hallojutuhb9071 Thank you :)

You were that desperate for a husband, huh.

Ok I let it play more & her advice for women tryna get a man was much much better lol

Played yourself.

The woke scolds don't even know what a woman is. How can they punish him for speaking on a womans issue

Good luck trying to get that point across to woke mob who constantly lie about being inclusive.

Agree with all of this, as a married women

I agree with you, but only partially.
I truly don't think money and things is what makes people happy. Having enough to live comfortably and engage in hobbies is good, having more than that is unnecessary and wasteful.
It is also proven that humans need close relationships with others to thrive.
I don't think we need to reinstate antiquated gender roles in order to achieve a society that values money less and community more. It is the economic system itself, late-stage neoliberal capitalism, that alienates people from our work and each other leaving us lonely and purposeless. I think we would all be happier if we were working directly to support our community rather than for a faceless and greedy corporation.

@@bananewane1402 Kids need a mom. All successful people I know grew up with a Mom in their home when they were small and a Father who behaved pretty masculine in his own way. Many people who fail utterly in adult life had both parents at work all the time. "Antiquated" gender roles are objectively the most proven system to produce good and capable people. I don't think we should force anyone into that, but to claim anything else is better is foolish because nothing bears out that conclusion. Capitalism isn't bad as long as money isn't the top priority, and it isn't in the ideal capitalist society. The idea of capitalism is that the butcher helps me and profits and I help the butcher and profit. A community can't replace a nuclear family, and nothing can replace having a Mom who is present and a Father who is present and having them act like who they actually are.

Men vilified femininity and still do.

tell that to all the women that think that men ain't people

Wouldn’t have everything around you and a modern civilization without the millions of men who died creating it. Let alone maintaining it. We’re about to find out what pushing men down will do to the world, women are absolutely not stepping up to replace men in the trades & blue collar work.
Men are more crucial than women if you want everything you see around you. If you want to go back to living in dirt huts banging rocks then sure “one gender isn’t more crucial than the other”. Your false egalitarianism doesn’t work if men don’t show up to work.

The fact women have to strike to show their importance in society other than social roles should tell you that women are still not being heard just as much as men aren't but women rights and strikes brings attention to mens problems in society either by women or by other men.

​@@Cosmic_Cookies_774not at all. It'd simultaneously send a message to the ultra wealthy, government bodies, and women who think they can survive without men.

Probably a bad idea when it comes to nuclear power plants.

​@@kindallnight1615 neither side is being heard

@@rushking19 yes I agree

Not exactly. Very few young men in their 20s can provide for their family in this economy. No fault divorce incentivizes women to leave marriages. The incentive structures of our environment are in direct opposition of a successful traditional relationship

@@tann_man Well, you can work together. My Mother she started a business and my Father learnt it with her and they became successful together. 😊

@@Phazz88 " retirement old-age poverty is tragic and mostly affects women who spent years on unpaid care work." source?
Women hold 51% of all wealth in the US.

Not for everybody!

@@teddiskim it's how you are here to make the dumbest comment ever.🧐

It’s not for everyone

Would you still want children from a failed marriage or just children outside of marriage?