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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 05:14, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Non-notable except for one event. Limited if any third-party sourcing available to otherwise establish notability. Grsz11 15:54, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, nominator appears to have selected 5-6 random Guantanamo detainees to try and delete, copy/pasting his nomination for each of them. Third-Party sources seem to exist for all of them, and no attempt is being made to improve or expand the articles, instead just jumping straight to deletion. AfD is not the proper route to ensure an article is fixed up - though it sometimes has that effect. This article needs work, yes - but it is about a notable individual andadequately sourced with reliable footnotes. Sherurcij (speaker for the dead) 17:56, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually, all five of the articles in this nominator's initiative were known or suspected to have been minors when captured. Geo Swan (talk) 23:25, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - except for those detainees that have received significant coverage an individual article seems like overkill. I couldn't find any significant coverage of Mahbub Rahman, his name is occassionaly mentioned in news reports, but only in passing and not with enough detail to write an article about this individual. Демоны Врубеля/Vrubel's Demons (talk) 13:40, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep -- According to the allegations Mahbub Rahman faced he was personally assigned to participate in an attack on the Salerno Fire Base by Abu Laith Al Libi while the allegations M.R. faced describe Al Libi as an "al Qaida facilitator" he is usually described the number three in Al Qaeda. The allegations he faced said Jalaluddin Haqqani personally recruited at the madrassa he attended. Jalaluddin Haqqani was the Taliban's senior military commander remaining in Afghanistan following the Taliban's ouster. I suggest being accused of personally being recruited by two, count'em two of ISAF's most senior enemies merits coverage. Geo Swan (talk) 23:25, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment -- Further to "one event" -- several years ago I read an argument someone else made that we should delete the article on former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair because it lapsed from BLP1e. He argued the only event Blair was known for was his support of George W. Bush war policy -- no one would ever have heard of him if he hadn't supported Bush's policies. The surprising thing about this wise-guy's argument is that he could have cited dozens of editorials that complained that Blair was simply "Bush's lap-dog" for his uncritical and dogged support of Bush. I think this wise-guy's joke made a very important point as to how subjective these judgements as to what is "one event" can be. Geo Swan (talk) 23:25, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep There might possibly be a case for deleting articles against gitmo prisoners of whom nothing substantial is known. But for this person, there is information available and in the article. He is notable for what he did in the fighting, what he is accused of, and for his being in some people's eye's a victim. DGG ( talk ) 03:27, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Per Sheru, DGG, and Geo.--Epeefleche (talk) 21:46, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.